bush, ron christie. monica, have to say, eloquent labor leader, richard trumka from a manufactured crisis. the mathematics don't matter. >> well, apparently mathematics do not matter. according to the president of united states the united states from the math doesn't matter or he simply doesn't care. this is a president hasnow racked up $16.2 trillion in debt and given us a record-breaking four straight years of trillion dollar less deficit. in his press conference yesterday, when he was talking about the need to cut the deficit and bring this under control, he has credibility on this. he has had for years, including two years for of democratic congress to be serious about it. he has not demonstrated. there is nothing in his background or pattern or history that leads us to believe he will do just. lou: senator patty murray, wants to be the chair of the senate budget committee but of dollars that she cannot commit to actually passing a budget. what are we doing with your? >> we are dealing with a bunch o